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Problems / Re: Using symbols - Mac Deluxe 10
« Last post by mitchb on August 04, 2017, 10:45:49 AM »
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Is the library just for "Pro" users? 

No, all versions use the symbol library. Click on the symbol and drag it to the drawing while holding down the mouse button. The yellow triangle means the symbol cannot be placed at the current location, once you are off the palette the triangle will go away.

The current release of your version is found here:

http://downloads.imsidesign.com/ESD/TurboCADMacDeluxe10_1340.dmg

Enjoy
Mitch
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Problems / Using symbols - Mac Deluxe 10
« Last post by Homestead Services on August 04, 2017, 07:34:09 AM »
All -

What should be a simple question ... I am using Mac Deluxe 10 (not Pro) build 1321 running on a MacBook Pro OS X Sierra 10.12.6.

I have found the Symbols Library in the TurboCad Explorer menu ... and all symbols seem to be there.  However when I hover over any symbol or click on a symbol the cursor displays a yellow triangle and does not allow for drag and drop, or selecting the symbol in any way I have discovered.

Any thoughts ... ?  Is the library just for "Pro" users?   

I am looking for a simple direction arrow to use in a roof design to show water flow.  I could draw and group a simple line and arrow head ... but using symbols for other things would be nice.

Jim
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Problems / Re: How to 'Fill'
« Last post by mitchb on August 03, 2017, 07:37:37 PM »
Hi Andrew,

The "Repair Curves" tool is new in V10, it's at the end of the Trim tool bar.

I'm very leery of letting the tool do the repair, you will be much better off zooming in and making the repair yourself. The program will change your geometry in ways you may not want. After repairing, rerun the tool, it may find more errors.

Enjoy
Mitch
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Problems / Re: How to 'Fill'
« Last post by Andrew1883 on August 03, 2017, 06:35:50 AM »
Thanks Mitch.

Quite a lot to absorb there. I think perhaps I need to spend some time on the 'Verify' section of the TurboCAD manual!

Just one question for now. How do I get to the 'Repair Curves' tool (remembering I'm using ctrl click in the absence of a right click).

Kind regards

Andrew
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Problems / Re: How to 'Fill'
« Last post by mitchb on August 02, 2017, 01:50:35 AM »
Hi Andrew1883,

Sorry, it took so long for me to get some time to look at this. I've been busy doing a laundry room remodel.

The first thing I did was to click on the outer most polygon and the ambiguity popup showed three polygons, two were white filled and the third was blue filled. My response to this was to delete all the polygons and restart with just the basic geometry. The best approach to this is to start with the inside small objects and work your way out. I began by filling all the circles, then the slots. Next, I filled the etchings, found numerous geometry errors as I moved through them. I'm posting some example screenshots. I then filled the polygon for the space between the etchings and then the board.

When the geometry won't fill do a right click on one of the lines and in the popup menu click on "Select Chain" and see if it will go all the way around, if not zoom in and check the points where it stopped. Another tool is "Repair Curves", and again do a right click on one of the lines and click on "Select Chain" and look for errors. The select chain thing also works with the "Fill" tool, select the "Fill" tool then right click on one of the curves and select chain. If that doesn't get it then select the "Fill" tool and shift click each curve. Filling the "donuts" around holes required holding the shift key and clicking just inside of the outer circle then release the shift key to fill.

Enjoy
Mitch
 
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Problems / Re: How to 'Fill'
« Last post by Andrew1883 on August 01, 2017, 06:49:18 AM »
Hi Mitch

I pressed on with trying to fill the tidied up drawing. On the top layer, I was left only with some relatively complicated shapes that produced those strange extra lines when I attempted to fill. On the bottom layer, I made good progress, though some of the larger and more complicated shapes simply wouldn't fill. I was planning to break these up with thin (0.4mm wide) bridging pieces so the shapes/areas would be less demanding.

The attached drawing shows where I had got to when the friend with AutoCAD rang to say he had filled the early version I had sent him without difficulty and without finding any errors. He will now send it off to be etched and I will stop trying to fill the drawing using TurbCAD. I hope you haven't spent much time on it.

I still in future want to be able to do the whole process myself using TurboCAD, so would be interested in any thoughts you have on how the problems I've had could be dealt with. More generally, I reckon 'filling' is something TurboCAD needs enhanced functionality if it is to be a satisfactory application for preparing drawings for photo-etching.

Kind regards.

Andrew
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Problems / Re: How to 'Fill'
« Last post by Andrew1883 on July 31, 2017, 05:16:52 PM »
Hi Mitch

I tidied up my drawing to help with the white fill stage of the top layer, and this worked. I then started to fill the separate components and was reasonably successful - but only with the simpler shapes. An idea of what I found possible is given by the attachment. The problems now with the top layer are much the same as I was having with the bottom layer (I haven't tried filling the bottom layer of the tidied up drawing).

I seem to be up against a limit to the complexity that the fill function can cope with. I hope you can suggest a work-around!

Kind regards

Andrew
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Problems / Re: How to 'Fill'
« Last post by Andrew1883 on July 29, 2017, 05:54:19 PM »
Hi Mitch

I'm afraid I'm back. I thought I had really sorted out filling when i managed to complete my last project satisfactorily. What I've now done is draw a far more complicated drawing and attempted to fill it, using the methods I had summarised in my pdf.

On my top layer, I quickly ran into a serious problem. Having filled the whole etch with my selected colour and brought back the outlines of the components, I attempted to make the area containing the components white by Fill tool + shift clicking on each of the inner boundary lines, followed by 'bring forward'. I tried several times but it simply wouldn't work. I fiddled around a bit with the top layer, changing some things to white - but it was all a bit pointless without achieving the important step.

I then tried the bottom layer. This was perhaps a little more successful but some of the more complex enclosed areas were too much for the fill tool, even when using the Fill tool + shift clicking method on the boundary lines of the enclosed areas (some worked with this, but not all).

I'm not sure what to do now. The attached drawing shows where I got to and perhaps you can find out why I couldn't do more. It's been a lot of work to get this far and it would be a pity to fail now.

Kind regards

Andrew
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General Discussion / Re: .tc3 files not opening in v10
« Last post by mitchb on July 24, 2017, 01:51:30 PM »
Hi kodachrome,

Welcome to the forum.

V6 is still available from IMSI as a trial version. Find it here:

http://downloads.imsidesign.com/TCMAC/v6/TurboCAD_Mac_Designer_2D_987_v62.dmg

Since you said the files were tc3 I'm assuming you had Designer. Deluxe and Pro are also available if I'm wrong. This will be a trial version and as such it will run for 15 days to do a batch conversion of your files. If you still have your serial# and activation code you can activate it.

Enjoy
Mitch
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General Discussion / .tc3 files not opening in v10
« Last post by kodachrome on July 24, 2017, 03:18:55 AM »
I created several .tc3 files with v6, a HD crashes lost my v6 application.    When I purchased and installed v10, I found that it would not open the .tc3 files.   I contacted IMSI and was told they could be of no help that I need to convert my .tc3 file to a dwg and then open with v10.   Problem is, I do not have v6 to do that, they do have it available.   Anyone have an idea on how to open the old .tc3 file in v10 without converting, know of where to find an old v6 download or anther program that will open .tc3?  I have tried eBay and online, no luck so far.  Would like not to have to spend another $100 on this program.   I am feeling pretty let down by IMSI, I am hoping someone out there has an answer.  I have a handful of drawings created, one for our non-profit art association building layout and really would like not to have to re-draw them all.   Just to clarify, the new purchase is the TurboCad Mac Deluxe 10.     With hope, Thank you.  J.Williams
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